ok tbh im still skeptical about this, but this honestly feels like a dope change, will wait for update to roll out and see how new corn spread is
Let’s fix vulcan chaingun so it shoots backwards at least at extreme heat levels
Still against it for all the reasons I’ve already brought up. I’d much rather have its current spread be kept and Comet Chase be finally adjusted instead.
The poll shows that people are roughly split 50/50 on whether to keep or revert/change it, so I’d suggest polling the two other options (revert or non-linear) on their own if we want to change this again.
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Whar should Vulcan’s spread be like?
- Revert back to match V96 spread
- Non-linear spread mechanic
0 voters
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What changes do you propose for Comet Chase?
I’m referring to this post:
Since this is planned to be addressed eventually, I don’t think it makes sense to keep Vulcan particularly more viable for one specific mission type to the detriment of its usability everywhere else.
In any case, the results of the poll seem pretty conclusive to me.
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Corn shootgun
- It needs a pattern you can add to it like 10 or more different pattern that would help player because the randomness of it can actually make a problem
Neutron gun
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Shot speed increase
Some players uses the slowness of neutron gun shot in bosses to do a huge impact in a low time (especially big screen bosses like : Chicken Canon and etc.) they shot a neutron gun from the back of screen and move with it while using auto clicker and when it hits the boss it deals a huge impact on him maybe it even glitches the calculation of the game I don’t really know how the game calculate the stacked shots -
some bosses like u.c.o would be problem when using neutron gun because firing the gun while they are moving would just be useless because it is slow
Plasma rifle
- rework on ai auto aim because it can just target a barrier and leave the chicken near it
That’s it
Already reworked in v100.
Not a problem. Bursting doesn’t affect your DPS, just divides and condenses it into, well, bursts.
How come they’re using autoclickers, and how isn’t that a separate issue? Bursting doesn’t require autoclicking. It was doable before with manual and automatic, it’s doable now with overdrive and without it.
…Why on Earth would that happen?
Skill issue. Lead moving targets if necessary.
This is a disadvantage that all lock-on weapons have, not just Plasma. Personally, I’d leave that as is. Get closer to your target if you have to.
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Someone told me that tbh
I was like that when i heard it
So it isn’t a problem
Thanks for telling me
Nice
Ok that nice
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I forgot about moron gun
Does moron gun needs rework because it is so unpopular like a buff in damage
What do you think
Its a starter weapon, and the description says that you need to buy a new one. it also gives 30% weapon score boost
It gives score boost
But thats the only advantage of using it
overheat very long
what do u want more?
its just a starter weapon
advantages of moron:
best weapon!1111!11!!
really long overheat
damage isnt a problem, take your time
literally over 30% weapon virtuosity bonus
also if you think its underpowered, its a starter weapon, what do you expect
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Whatever man
I think i shouldn’t have started this discussion about moron gun
I thought maybe it is just need a small buff to make it perfect but whatever
what moron have what it need,wdym it need a small buff
also what the small buff that moron need
In damage
Nvm man
Well in that case the two beams on 
6 - 10 should be closer together to that they have a better chance at converging onto a single target. I’ve played with the bombers and their twin bolts and on bombers, they’re pretty much parallel to each other and the two bolts often converge onto a single target, making it much better against tanky enemies than the two diverging bolts on the other ships.
I’d still try to buff lightning by increasing its firerate to 6.25/s so that it packs more DPS, cause it’s in general kinda mediocre in power.
This one is a longstanding issue, but riddler and corn shotgun have pretty extreme recoil which makes waves with limited space way too difficult for bombers. Such a nerf is not even warranted for those two weapons since they’re not exactly the top of the tree in terms of DPS. Can their recoil be reduced in half? It’s that extreme IMO.
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I’ve prepared another batch of changes and suggestions. Excel sheet linked at the bottom.
Feedback regarding the Corn Shotgun spread change
After some testing, it seems to be kind of a mixed bag. While the change did help with reducing Corn’s overall randomness, it also causes the volleys to become overall too unfocused. Since it is no longer possible for a volley with several projectiles near the center to occur, the effectiveness of the weapon against small tanky targets (especially at range) and even some bosses has dropped, and it has trouble with punching through columns of enemies.
Otherwise, its general performance remains unchanged, but I and a few others reckon that it should be changed again. It could either be reverted to the old way it worked (cubic distribution), or the cone could be divided up into uneven slices in such a way that the volley is denser in the middle.
What to do about Corn Shotgun’s spread?
- Keep current
- Revert to cubic distribution
- Divide the spread cone into uneven slices to focus projectiles towards the middle (or some other solution that’d give a similar result)
0 voters
Corn Shotgun overdrive
By now, Corn has pretty much solidified its position as the least popular weapon out of the entire roster. Probably the most significant factor that has been contributing to this is its complete incompatibility with overdrive. While this arguably will become less relevant with overdrive being moved to being a booster ability, I think it’s safe to say that Corn would still really benefit from being able to use it.
I’d like to suggest giving Corn the ability to use overdrive while below full heat. Entering popcorn mode would automatically disable overdrive and prevent it from being engaged again until the weapon has cooled down.
Laser Cannon adjustment
Damage: 250/500/750/1000 → 225/450/675/900
Interval: 0.270/0.245 → 0.243/0.220
Simply multiplying the damage and intervals by 0.9 to increase its rate of fire. Since it’s taking me so long to get around to continuing the rework post, I figured that it’s high time to give Laser a little something to help it out at least a bit.
Plasma Rifle’s effectiveness against feathers
@Recruit_75 has voiced a complaint about Plasma’s lackluster performance against feathers. After further discussion, I’d like to suggest slightly increasing the AoE’s knockback against them.
Adjustments to low power overheat boost
I have made some further adjustments to low power overheat values, keeping in mind the feedback I received last time. The primary objective was to make the boosts more consistent across the board. Some weapons do still get a reduction to the boost, but a less extreme one than suggested before. Several have their 0 value increased and/or have increased overheat time on more levels than before.
The logic behind the specific numbers is as follows:
- Weapons with a constant hitrate gain +0.5s for each level below 4 (+2s on 0)
- Weapons with either variable firerate or projectile count gain +0.5s for each level below 5 (+2.5s on 0)
- Weapons with both variable firerate and projectile count gain +0.6s for each level below 5 (+3s on 0)
Exceptions:
- Moron Railgun is treated as a weapon with constant firerate since it only gets increased on its last two power levels, and the damage per volley stops changing at that point.
- Lightning Fryer still does its own thing, since its hitrate gets doubled on 6. It gets +1.5s on 5 and +0.25s for each level under that. 6 takes the average value between 5 and 7 so that there’s no weird drop in damage until overheat.
- Laser Cannon’s overheat hasn’t been tweaked in this file, since I haven’t proposed the volley rework yet. Currently, it needs every little bit of extra overheat time it can get, so the values it has are fine.
- Absolver Beam doesn’t currently support per-level values for overheat, so it remains unchanged.
Overheat multipliers for Absolver Beam
Related to the above. Since Absolver’s row of overheat values in the excel sheet doesn’t currently do anything, I’d like to propose making these values work as per-level multipliers to the initial heat cost and heat drain rate. This would allow giving it a lower overheat rate on low power, as is the case with the rest of the weapons.
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Fat +1 on this one. It feels just awful that you can’t overdrive with this gun at all. I think even if we slap the overdrive until max heat on it, it ain’t gonna be more powerful than regular weapons with overdrive anyway. The popcorn mode is kinda a double edged sword because it lets you keep firing with lower damage, but makes you unable to take advantage of coolants.
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