Early Access version 109

[Starbrockle]

What?

[PlasmaX]

What do you mean by What?

[Starbrockle]

Can you precise what you mean? That it was you who suggested the idea?..

[PlasmaX]

Im the one who suggested to add a Danger Zone to the Bullet Rain wave.

[Starbrockle]

Yeah, but all you said was:

@PlasmaX

Ideas: Add Danger Zone to these waves:
From Cover To Cover
Gladiator
Bullet Rain

And then unlike you, I precised why that feature felt necessary like this:

@Starbrockle

A danger zone for the Bullet Rain wave is a good idea, considering how fast the barriers appear.

[AnasWael]

IA,what about my wave idea ?

The Giant Spacecraft "Wave"

In this wave will appear a giant shape spacecraft move the chickens and the one wave has 5 of those spacecrafts shape . [image]

and you didn’t answer that .

@AnasWael

IA , Can you make( changing callsign , customizing spacecraft , customizing theme)
free for who has CHL ?

[Dawnless]

This might be too late to suggest but I’ll do it anyway.
Right now, stasis zones and neutrons have similar colors, so in waves where there’s many alchemist and metal-suit chickens, a lot of stasis zones are gonna get thrown, making neutrons barely visible.
I suggest making neutrons more visible or changing the color of stasis zones. (If that’s possible)

[VerMishelb]

Most UI elements with bright border have their colour defined as the border colour. The base will be darker anyway. If this is what you meant.

And yes, both asteroids and boss’ attacks can kill you.

Also I find the magnetic manipulator change quite dumb after all that time. Everybody (except maybe him) got used to it a long time ago. It’ll just look wrong now.

[AnasWael]

Already they added to v110 .

@InterAction_studios

@SA-GoldenBoss128

Should asteroids that Magnetic Manipulator uses in its “storm” attack be the same as other ones

Ugh, fine. Changed in v.110 Idea

@AnasWael

The color doesn’t same although it is not transparent

I see what you mean now. Changed in v.110 Idea

Note that after this change, selecting one of the “basic” colors will result in much more vibrant theme (which may or may not be what some people want). To restore the old appearance, use “Advanced color selection…” and set brightness to 80% and saturation to 75%

[GgWw1175]

@Baron

This weapon is overbuffed and powerful in an over-reactive way, in normal fire rate it takes 17 Seconds to overheat

I don’t know where you got 17 seconds from, but Riddler overheats in 14 starting from 5.

Power	0	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	20
Riddler	16.500	16.000	15.500	15.000	14.500	14.000	14.000	14.000	14.000	14.000	14.000	14.000

It needs to have that much due to its otherwise lackluster DPS. Sure, its damage is focused and it can dispatch single enemies very quickly, but it’s slower against crowds. 14 seconds also allows it to have another niche in having the highest total damage until overheat value from 4 onward.

Riddler is not overpowered whatsoever. Actually, it’s one of my favourite reworks becuase it ended up being reasonably balanced while differing significantly from the rest of the roster just by stats alone.

@MaybeOrandzaIdk

If anything, it needs something more to it. Galba and I thought of giving it shrapnel when killing enemies but we never really got around to balancing this idea. But overall, Riddler needs improvements, not to be nerfed to the point where it’s truly the worst weapon.

I feel obliged to say that I don’t think this is particularly necessary. I understand the urge to make some of the weapons more complex and interesting, especially since all the projectile-based primary weapons simply deal damage as their only on-hit effect, but I’m not sure about adding such mechanics to existing weapons.

My memory is a bit dusty (and the WBP 2.0 group chat has been lost to time), but from what I recall, ricochet was originally planned as a potential solution to Riddler being underpowered after its first WBP revision - at the time, we were stuck testing a potential DPS increase using damage amps, and it was still so ridiculously ineffective that we thought our only options were buffing it into space or adding some secondary mechanic.
That of course didn’t happen, and Riddler turned out to be just fine after the rework for some eldritch reason, so all of that was shelved. I suppose it could be revived, but I don’t see much of a point. And besides, balancing multihit/AoE mechanics is, as we’ve learned the hard way, a big pain in this game.

[PlasmaX]

So what does that mean?

[Starbrockle]

You’re playing games with me, I don’t like this at all.

You want to complain about that? Then send a message to IA, he’s the one who gave me the idea medal. Because I’m not going to keep flooding this topic with an argument.

But let me say this: I did not steal your medal since I mentioned both of us. As a matter of fact, you should be glad of how nice I was to do the favor (especially in case you forgot that you suggested the same idea a few versions ago). But if I did steal, I would have only mentioned myself.

Now, let’s give this topic a rest, okay?

[Baron]

@GgWw1175

I don’t know where you got 17 seconds from, but Riddler overheats in 14 starting from 5.

At firepower 8 I started counting it and It reached approximately 17 seconds so that’s why I said this. But anyway I still agree that the weapon needs some buffs.

@PlasmaX

So what does that mean?

Instead of accusing people that they stole your medal why do you not better tell to them or IA that you also suggested it? Medals gets shared so no need to just rant about it and causes this topic to be a burning fuel.

[Starbrockle]

@Baron

Instead of accusing people that they stole your medal why do you not better tell to them or IA that you also suggested it?

I already knew that Plasma suggested the idea, like, from the very beginning. I was just precising why that idea was relevant, which they did not. Also, this is thanks to me:

@InterAction_studios

“Bullet Rain” wave: Added safe zone (@MariusFLT @Starbrockle @PlasmaX Idea)

@Baron

Medals gets shared so no need to just rant about it and causes this topic to be a burning fuel.

Exactly my point. Thank you for agreeing with me.

[Baron]

@InterAction_studios Regarding “It gets cold in space” boss

1. Why there is no a flashing effect occur when the boss gets killed? Other chicken bosses does have this thing.

2. How about make the clothes it drops have the ability to kill the player? Weird Idea but a sort of increasing the difficulty.

[PlasmaX]

1- Yes
2- I did not try to steal your medal.

[PlasmaX]

@Starbrockle

I already knew that Plasma suggested the idea, like, from the very beginning. I was just precising why that idea was relevant, which they did not. Also, this is thanks to me:

Exactly, I suggested it and you said why it should be added, I just didnt understand what you meant thats all dude, Also, If youre offended, Im sorry.

[Bandicoot]

So… @InterAction_studios

I disabled in game music on sattings sound and I heard sound victory (stage clear!) or(mission complete!)

And I think is not bug. isn’t it?

[Baron]

The Victory Tune isn’t really a music.

[PlasmaX]

Yeah kinda, It a music for winning