Early Access version 50

[Traveller]

@1galbatorix1

If it wasn’t obvious before that you don’t play the game whatsoever, it definitelly is now.

1. I play ſignificantly more than the target audiënce.
2. I’ll admit that at the time I wrote that I had not played v. 50. I was goïng baſed off of what I knew of the mechanic, i.e. that ever clicking ſlowly kicks it into overdrive mode, in which the fire rate is increaſed to a ſtandard level, thus, there is not a 1 to 1 mapping between clicks and projectiles. I reſt my caſe. (EDIT: I have ſince been corrected.)
3. This argument aſide, I don’t ſee why you are ſtill not ſatisfied with the overdrive mechanic. It does ſolve the balancing problems that came with variäble overheat.
4. Don’t be a dick.

[Traveller]

Eh, I feel like the reſtrictions ſhouldn’t apply. Moſt people don’t play it competitively, and there are multiple ways to “win”. I think the reſtrictions would be oppreſſive on the caſuäl gamer.

[BoggY]

The way “competitive” system functions now is very good for both casuals and competitive players. Disqualifying from leaderboards doesn’t affect the casual player’s resources or chances to complete the mission successfully at all.

[GgWw1175]

@Traveller

I was goïng baſed off of what I knew of the mechanic, i.e. that ever clicking ſlowly kicks it into overdrive mode, in which the fire rate is increaſed to a ſtandard level, thus, there is not a 1 to 1 mapping between clicks and projectiles. I reſt my caſe.

Then please, at least read the patchnotes before commenting.

@InterAction_studios

Note that this isn’t quite the “Overdrive” mechanic I originally had in mind, because here your clicking rate actually determines the firing rate , i.e., exactly how manual clicking worked up until now (in the original proposal, the boost would be unvarying and would kick in independently of manual click rate). For now, think of it as a simplified beta version of Overdrive. Let’s collect some data and see where we go with this.

[505]

Could we paint Cockpit borders too?

[minasam123]

I suggested it the first:

Early Access version 49

@InterAction_studios Can we get an option to customize the messages color, or at least make them dependent on a existing customization option (on the change color theme menu): [image] Also, can we have a option to customize the cockpit outline color (in customize spacecraft menu)? [image]

[BoggY]

Galbatorix and I were testing the drops RNG in dailies and we’ve been getting slightly different results depending on the order of enemies killed. Can we get more details on how is the drop system working for the challenges?

Edit: Food and coins were always dropping the same for both of us no matter the order, so that’s pretty good. The powerups are still a bit messed up if we don’t kill the enemies within the same order.

[SA-GoldenBoss128]

Does special weapons still add 30 seconds in space races?

[BoggY]

This message appears at the end of a competitive mission when we disconnect in the middle of a wave. Can it appear the moment we reconnect because the player might have disconnected due to internet issues, where the warning message is not present? If possible, make it only appear the first time we reconnect after being disconnected.

Also could the message clarify the reason for disqualification? Someone who has never paused and has never seen the warning message and then has been disconnected in the middle of a wave would not know the reason of disqualification with the current message.

[InterAction_studios]

@VerMishelb

I see, neutron gun is now a great overheat pain.

Well, if you insist on firing half your shots into nothingness, then it’s to be expected

[InterAction_studios]

@Traveller

The clicks don’t correspond to the projectiles

They still do (at this stage). Unless of course you’re clicking even faster than the overdrive limit.

[InterAction_studios]

@BoggY

Galbatorix and I were testing the drops RNG in dailies and we’ve been getting slightly different results depending on the order of enemies killed. Can we get more details on how is the drop system working for the challenges?

The drop is assigned at spawn time. There are only two cases where the drops might vary:

1. From dynamically-spawned enemies (e.g. pilot chicken that spawns when saucer is destroyed)
2. Some drops may be omitted if you exceed wave limits (gift limit is 2 and powerup limit is 1). So, if you have one enemy for each, you CAN collect the powerup first and THEN the gift, but not the other way around.

Did either of those cases apply in your tests?

[InterAction_studios]

@BoggY

Can it appear the moment we reconnect

Currently, the “disqualification” mechanism is generic and could apply to more cases than simply reconnections (e.g., cheating/autoclicking detected). The reason isn’t even saved anywhere, that’s why it’s not shown.

I’ve made a note about this, but it requires changes to the infrastructure so I can’t fix it immediately.

[BoggY]

We have been testing the first wave of the today’s Daily Hard Challenge. Here’s a picture of it - it had no dynamically spawning enemies:

@InterAction_studios

Some drops may be omitted if you exceed wave limits (gift limit is 2 and powerup limit is 1). So, if you have one enemy for each, you CAN collect the powerup first and THEN the gift, but not the other way around.

This seems to be the problem and is causing different drops, we identified the enemy which drops a gift (see the image) and we identified the enemy which drops an atomic firepower. The atomic won’t be dropped if we kill the gift chicken first, and vice versa. Different orders of killing them caused different gifts to drop too. We got Boron, Utensil, Neutron, Positron and the atomic firepower. Also including a small amount of cases where we didn’t get a single drop (!)
The player can’t know which one will drop what, and this is still causing one player to get an atomic (a useful drop) and the other one to get non-matching gifts (not a useful drop). Even one time could matter a lot because obviously the difference between 19 and 20 fp exists.

Still, amazing work on fixing the food and coins drop, it’s working perfectly as of now.

[SA-GoldenBoss128]

@InterAction_studios there is a chance to disconnect between stages in space races, when I pause the game at part 2 in travelling between stage I don’t see the warning message.

[InterAction_studios]

@BoggY

Different orders of killing them caused different gifts to drop too.

That definitely should not happen. Is there anything different between your mission configs? Are both your tiers sufficiently high (>10) for all weapons to appear? How did you restart the mission each time? Did you cancel it, or end session?

@BoggY

Also including a small amount of cases where we didn’t get a single drop (!)

That’s… odd. You didn’t collect charity, did you?

[InterAction_studios]

@SA-GoldenBoss128

when I pause the game at part 2 in travelling between stage I don’t see the warning message

If you don’t see the message, you can safely disconnect without repercussions.

However, once you damage your first enemy, you have to finish the wave.

[SA-GoldenBoss128]

So if I disconnect will it save some time?

[InterAction_studios]

Why, are you in a hurry?

Do you mean Space Races? Disconnections won’t help you, because you’ll get a time penalty when you reconnect.

[Francis]

Well, disconnecting after a boss is still faster than waiting for the cutscene (Doing it even lets you spare some time)