Problem with keys

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@Gaunter

but they’re something that you can get more of during missions if you have higher skills. A person that could catch 5 keys during a Yolk-Star fight is more skilled than someone who couldn’t get any on the same difficulty

Or just more lucky. Let’s remember that keys have a chance to appear at any time and any object even if it’s not possible to get to them (without dying).

@Gaunter

If someone wants to prevent that from happening, they should probably get a little bit better at the game.

I agree with that, because I personally am the try-hard gamer. However, let’s remember that CI games main target are casual players. Someone that launches the game just to play and not worry about challenge.

@Gaunter

If we’re still just talking about Squawk Block missions, then I completely agree with you. I’d argue Darkness missions also need a mechanic like this

Well, I’m talking about general rewards, but this also should be added.

@Gaunter

If the mission is too short and the game doesn’t spawn keys, then using a higher skill level may be necessary

Yeah. And what if someone belongs to group of the casual players?

@Gaunter

If you can’t find a long mission or something like a Comet Chase that give you a ton of keys, sell food items (which are, in their own way, guaranteed keys for certain missions).

I guess that’s right.

Still, food seems like a joke in CIU. It’s just a currency to exchange to another currency. Maybe if there was something that you can only get with food it would have a reason to exist and be more practical

@Gaunter

However if IA likes this idea, then they might implement it sooner or later

I wish for sooner. It’s been ~245 days since the release of first version and we still don’t know how long until end of early access or even what is missing from the release. Something like a roadmap would be very much welcome to see.

@Gaunter

Also just saw your edit. I’m trying to give the best response as I can and that might take a while, especially for someone whose first language isn’t English. Sorry if I come off as too much of a try-hard.

Yeah, I understand it. I’m also doing it this way so I just tried to lighten the conversation so it doesn’t seem as violent discussion.

@Fractorial

Base key rewards (depending on mission type) + keys you get during the mission

Then it will be multiplied by difficulty factors… done.

I feel like I wrote the same thing, but here’s what I was thinking about.

In mission select screen you have now (I don’t know from what version, when I was complaining about it, it didn’t have it and then I missed it) possibility to check how long is the mission. It’s in form of nXm where m determines number of waves in a chapter and n determines how many chapters there will be. So what I was thinking about is that n number also should determine the keys. So if you pick a 4x7 mission it gives you 4 keys if you beat all 4 chapters. I think 1 key for chapter is enough, but we can discuss the possibility of 2.

Also about the boss reward. 1-2 keys for beating every boss is cool, but the existing bosses also need to be tweaked when it comes to keys. Look at henterprise, it spawns the chickens that can have keys. And you know what’s the worst thing about it? That IA knows about it and instead of tweaking it they just leave it as it is and they are calling it an exploit - Exploit & cheating policy. It’s not an exploit, it’s just how you programmed the game to behave. You have full control about every aspect of the game (or nearly every because engines can be a pain, but you can’t convince me that you can’t control how the boss behaves).
tl;dr
Remove the chance to spawn the keys in every existing boss fight, but add a 1-2 key reward for killing the boss.

@Fractorial

There’s a spaceship variant that lets you see keys during darkness missions.

Wait, so there’s only one spaceship that let’s you see the keys in darkness missions? I thought it was universal to every type.